1981-0215-Psychology-of-Miracles-Akron

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Former name: 1980-1120-Psychology-of-Miracles-Akron

Before that was 1980-1120-Psychology-of-Miracles-Columbus

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Title	1981-0215-Psychology-of-Miracles-Akron
Recorded date	February 15, 1981
Location	Akron, Ohio. This is published AS 1981-0215-Psychology-of-Miracles-Akron-from-DME
Number of tapes	MJ is 4x30, misssing end. SN is 47+48+32+25 = 2 1/2 hrs.
Other recorders audible?	Yes. At least 2 other recorders.
Alternate versions exist?	Probably, due to different tape lengths. Need to check.
Source	MJ, SN
No. of MP3 files	MJ is 4x30= 2 hrs. SN is 47+48+32+25.
Total time	MJ 2 hours (end missing). SN is 152 minutes = 2 hours +32 min
Transcription status	Published, but Auto-AI done for purposes of comparing with the book (above). First pass Auto-AI Rev.com July 2, 2025
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Versions may be from different tape recorders.

Check end of SN version. See if any gaps filled. MJ is 4x30. SN is 47+48+32+25.

Must add last file of SN version to get the end.

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Notes

Formerly was mis-dated and mis-named as Nov. 20, 1980, Columbus

First pass is Auto_AI at Rev.Com made from from MJ version: 4 files x 30 minutes, taped ends before talk ends.

SN version: 2 cassettes

Tape 1 (side 1 = 47 minutes; side 2 = 48 minutes)

Tape 2 (side 3 = 32 minutes; side 4 = 25 minutes)

See notes on tape slippage.

Jan 22, 2015 - Bart Marshall's side 1 slips.

Published, but is an Auto-AI candidate for purposes of completing this page and comparing with the book (above)

Transcription

File mj0-intro

00:03

Exactly what we're doing today is to bring people together from different backgrounds, but you have a like mind would like to share and their ideas with other people and find out what other people know about things. Mr. Rose himself has offered books out in the hallway, passed him on the way in the in papers, which is a handbook that he put together after his own years. What he went through, what he found, and different disciplines and systems that he engaged himself in. And he, the Psychology Observer, which has recently been published, which is a esoteric meditation system itself. And there's also some other folks out there that might be of today Cirrhosis going to speak on a psychology of miracles, and this is a unique and fascinating looking through things that are mysterious in our experience.

File mj1

mj1-00:01

Well, I say hello again to some of you, quite a few, several before to see all had some lectures

mj1-00:24

Up here, but I haven't been getting

mj1-00:25

Around much lately going too much,

mj1-00:29

Partly

mj1-00:29

Because of gasoline and transportation, difficult to do the things we used to on. I'm going to start right off of this. I'm going to start right off of this with a slide to have you look at

mj1-01:02

The crux of what I'm going to talk about is on this slide.

mj1-01:08

I won't be shifting it for a while, but the secret behind miracles

mj1-01:18

Goes back. We're going to run through a lot of things that are unusual and we're going to sort of categorize them and this little chart here will relate to that categorization. When we come out the earth at this point and our first transmutation of food, there's an inclination to leap ahead of the natural things that occur in life into excessive mystery. There's a lot of things that can be explained by a simple biological means. If you're sick and they're heal, if you have heart trouble, the doctor will tell you to move because you can't heal yourself if you don't ize. You've got to get out and move the muscles and keep the blood circulate. But this is the trans of food that occurred in this matter, and

mj1-02:18

This is the affirmative individual. Some of the food goes into flesh and some goes

mj1-02:24

Into a type of flesh called glands, endocrine fighting, of course every part of the body. But the OC creams is one of the places where energy can be stored. Of course, it can be stored in fat, but it's much more quickly released from gland than it is from tissue, from fat muscle tissue. And then above that we have a NeuroQuant. There's a missed stage here, results in the transmutation of this stage here, and this means that you can develop neural energy. And to give you an example of the direction I'm taking, quite a few of you may be acquainted with the recent Japanese and brain chemistry. They discovered that there's, there are chemicals, one of them's produced by the atory glands and a difference.

mj1-03:24

This has an effect upon the synaptic action in the brain. Now, they discovered in the process of checking the synaptic action, they discovered that there's two forces, the two chemicals that work in the nervous system. For those that don't understand what a synapses is, synapses is the end of a nerve which has feathers out like fingers on hand. And they are, this may be supposedly some distance apart and at the moment of thought or perception, there's a spark jumps across. Now, this goes through all the nerves in the brain, possibly some in other parts of the body. For instance, the nerve, the sensory nerve in your fingers from your eyes maybe doesn't have a jump until it gets clear into the brain. Now, if you stop and think about this for a while, you get an idea of why this is necessary, that nothing is piped directly into a memory bank.

mj1-04:26

There's a strong supposition that man lives right here. He lives in the spark gap, the same as automobile lives in the gap in the spark club. The life of an automobile depends upon that spark gap. Not too strong, not too weak, that may human, okay? So there's a chemical with about 20 letters in it that clears every impulse that comes through that nerve and into the brain. It clears that path, it clears the surface within a split second. This happens in a feet of light. Almost another message comes through and another drug prepares for this other message. Now, two of the drugs that they discovered are dopamine and serotonin and dopamine is an exhilarating and serotonin is a depressive. Now this is the way the body is balanced. Now what happens is the mind continues to think. For instance, if you're a boy college president, college and you're forcing this, you're holding your body still in a chair and a desk or something and you're forcing this action, after a while, the system rises to the occasion and starts to produce enough of these clearing chemicals because when you run out of that force, the body goes to sleep.

mj1-05:49

So civilization is based upon the development of the proper chemical in there beyond what perhaps we had a hundred years ago, perhaps each child, there's a greater chance for the development of this, a greater sensitivity and of course a greater inclination for perhaps over burning the brain. But drugs are, and anyhow, this is a result of transmutation. I don't want to get into that right now. Do it now from this and only through the neural quantum energy is a spiritual quantum develop. Of course, I'm ruling out the class of people who just make me believe for the church. I'm talking about people who are able to heal such as Christ, some of the more famous people. And this is developed back the cost of something else, cost of intense concentration, depression. But what I want to bring out is you can take this level here and you can transmute food into flesh and you can get fat and you can become a haw and the energy will go over here and down and back to the earth. You can transmute it into the glands. And if that's as far as you go, it'll go over here because that's it. Good see and back to the earth so that the civilization rests upon the ability to transmute someplace above the glands.

mj1-07:27

I'll turn this on for a while and then I'll shut it off because this, I'm going to slide. I have consider a field here to cover. This is the different classes of we for future reference. These are the different classes of magicians or Maggie. And as I said, all of this comes from something that's done with the energy. And there's three types of magicians. There's one that uses delusion. There's another that dispels delusion or takes the path of wisdom. And the third is the magician who creates, and this latter one at the bottom here, we, we don't call him a magician anymore. Most of the books refer to him as a, however you want to pronounce it, and we'll get back to these later.

mj1-08:33

Once got dark, I want to run through some of the things and then I want to categorize them as possible or let you judge for yourself maybe what you think is the basis of all these phenomenon. There are many phenomenon, and I can remember when I was quite young, I thought that it was a fascinating thing. As Mike said, I looked at everything. I spent time and spiritualism going, looking for materialization and that sort of thing. He did make one mistake. Of course, I haven't been searching for 50 years, I've been awake until I've been trying to do something.

mj1-09:20

We have the first class I have on the chart there is what we call slight of hand later to me, and this is deliberate delusion. This is the plain tricks with someone's optics or something of that sort. And the second class is going up the scale now to the idea of the physical of the mental. There's a second class of magic that is practice by physical energy and it's the first root. In other words, you can on the level of let's say the person who hasn't developed any neural energy can do it with simple physical, somatic or smic energy. And this category includes such words as chief or para that Japanese had a way of developing energy. They called har, and the Chinese I think initiated the word chi, but this is the ability say to break bricks with your hands or to have superhuman fess, to lift enormous loads and that sort of thing. And incidentally, we'll get back to this if I don't hope somebody reminds me of the proof instance. There's a certain validation, I shouldn't say proof, but there's a certain validation for these different quantum energies that I talked about.

mj1-10:42

The first one,

mj1-10:45

Maybe I can show that off again,

mj1-10:59

This neuro quantum energy, the reason that I became convinced that there is a neuro energy, but because I saw several feats similar to this where people could do enormous tasks with their bare hands beyond the capacity of their body. And it verges on the miraculous. Now, it isn't the idea that you have to have neural quantum energy to do it, but I became convinced that the nerves were transmitters of enormous energy. This was long before I discovered the concept of when the concept, the scientific involvement of the neural transmitters. They call these things that declare the path and transmit the electricity or the messages through the nerves. I had seen some people pick up some enormous loads and I did it myself. One, when there was a wreck on the road, there was a two ton truck overturned and two of us ran down the street.

mj1-12:00

We heard the noise and there was a woman was 10 months pregnant, lying under the truck. Her truck had a pin to the street and another fellow was pin on top of her. There were people, they hit a taxi cab with about seven people holiday. Everybody was drunk. And I saw, I didn't know the woman was pregnant. I saw a woman underneath the vehicle and I shouted to the thought, we got to get the truck off of it. Well, this truck had been loaded with junkers, the junk truck bathtub and that sort of thing. And we got a hold of it. We couldn't move it, and I got the shout and the curing come on. We picked it up, picked the truck up and put it back on it. Dual wheels pushed it over. I couldn't have done that. I don't know of any weightlifter could have done it, picked up that load.

mj1-12:47

And I'm not an experienced, I'm not a weightlifter. I've never looked at weights, neither had the other folks. And I became convinced that we summoned energy from all parts of our body. The only way we could have done it came in from all of our body and afterwards totally weakened it just completely at the point of collapse and the strain. So it doesn't come through the bloodstream, the bloodstream doesn't have time. We can come to this conclusion rather rapidly is how it gets there. There's only one way it to get to your back and your arms and that sort of thing. Everything has to be perfectly rigid to keep this measuring of vertebrae. And the only conclusion they come to, it comes through the nerves. It transmitted through the nerves. So consequently, we have then what I call the potential in the nervous system to hold a quantum of energy.

mj1-13:32

I didn't realize that at the time. It's only been in the last 10 years. This thing happened when I was a bit younger. It's only been the last 10 years that I've encountered this concept of the neuro, neuro trans. It's a concept all time business, the scientific chemical analysis. They have discovered things that clear the nervous system. Now, if this type of thinking work at lightning speed to clear the synapses, it can work at lightning speed to transmit energy to any part of the bowel. Now you hear a lot of stories of the same type of people who have lifted the enormous love. Even women, women whose children have been caught out automobiles. I read partly several counts of this. So taking this same thing then, and you take it a step further and you'll find that there's a transmutation of the neural energy. The neural energy becomes the intelligence.

mj1-14:24

This is, it determines the reaction or the grades that a person gets belt, their ability to maintain a certain level of neuro energy. Now we go from there and we talk about healers, but that's basically what we're here to talk about. And we find there's another transmutation. And that transmutation from the neural energy can't come from any place else occurs, and energy is subjected from human body sometimes at a distance, sometimes by laying on the hands, but it doesn't come through the mind of the man as much as it does from the nerves. Of course the mind has to be, it has an intention and direction. And of course this is a little bit more complicated than just thinking about something and dealing. You might have to think about it for years before you become proficient. The business of healing people.

mj1-15:20

The third category, incidentally, this har up is what the Japanese views and hand to hand combat. And you hear stories coming out of a plate of Formosa that they had dominated. The individual learned to kill people with their hands. And this seemed to be that I think possibly unconsciously they may have even projected through their nervous system into their hands the power that would've lifted a truck. See what I mean? Now the bad thing about it, of course it's all right if have to do that once in a while, help somebody that's injured. But I can't see quite the idea of downgrading when I consider a very sacred energy for the purpose telling people they do. The third category of magic is the miracles of faith. The miracles of faith seem to have very little to do with quantum.

mj1-16:20

There's a certain mental attitude. Of course it has to occur, but a lot of faith healings occur without any particular body condition of healing or heal. I presume most healings occur in a group. So if you may draw energy from anywhere from a dozen feet, several hundred, we'll get back to this later because also in the faith category of witchcraft, people don't start to think about that. But witchcraft doesn't work unless you have faith in it. Person, they find it to really place a spell on someone effectively, you have to get them to believe it. How many of you that have been investigated Huna healing at one time here about 20, 30 years ago, it was quite a rage. They had discipled the Hawaiian language and decided that the Huna doctors had came up with a unique system of healing that it involved faith. Even the doctors may in turn to be killed by reversal from another witch doctor.

mj1-17:30

Well, one of the fourth one. The fourth one is a mental form of magic. Now, again, if we get down here, if you're acquainted these terms, we're going through them so we can frequent ourselves or familiarize ourself with the meanings and they fight phenomenon. There are mental, we are getting out of the physical completely. Now out of the, let's say the unknown, which is the mechanics of faith, it isn't completely unknown, but the benefits of them and these types, the mental tricks or magical things have to do with things like hypnosis, zapping and psychokinesis. Now, psychokinesis is manly, an extrusion of the mind itself psychokinesis and means moving objects, kinetic moves moving. A lot of the mind we're acquainted of these. These are the items that have been tested pretty well. The Russian lady can move objects with her mind just by concentration supposedly. We've had some people that claim, I don't know how well they've been tested, but I know they went under gone.

mj1-18:41

A lot of tests that side just in this country and affecting matter with the objects referring watches. And this thing called zapping is another thing, which is a form of hypnosis, except the hypnosis generally depends upon me. Mary passes something that fixes itself on that person's mind, that their attention zapping can be done without you knowing it. And zapping is the root value behind most of the cults that came out of India to Vietnam least there are people who had have trained and go to this concentrated mood and remain that way, or somebody discipline themselves for 10 or 20 years to learn how to exact somebody. Some of the movements call it, I think shock. I could be wrong. Correct me if I'm, but they were able to actually knock you off your feet just by looking at you sometimes maybe not even looking at you.

mj1-19:49

There's a fellow named Mayor Bob. Have you read of him? He had disability. He disciplined himself. He remained silent up to the time he died. People would walk in front of me in the scene and they would collapse on the floor in front of him, even knock right off their feet. Well, of course that was quite a sales feature because people just thought they had something. He had the knowledge of the cosmos or with the higher spirit. He wasn't messing of the higher spirit he was. That was the product of India. I've always said they can, they'll have a great steel production, but they have to do something. I'm not saying this in a critical manner. I've studied this for a long time. I have joined groups, I've initiated India groups and I studied their techniques and it has nothing to do with God. Al may, but the class we will maybe not pay too much attention to it. This topic, we get into it later, and that's the magic of entities that you find this. The first hint of this say in the old writings like Shakespeare, the compass, the spirits that created the storms, the spirits that did the bidding of some particular person.

mj1-21:00

The last category of course is what I call it super mental. And this category fits into this top arrow on the thing which is spiritual quantum energy. There is a method of affecting magical hacks. By magical I mean something. It isn't from the prescription, A result of a prescription by a doctor or something doesn't have a good explanation for the average person. Now, there are some other categories. I'll give you an example. I don't know exactly how they were brought about, but we're going to get into them, into these things and start to identify them as we go along. And to the best of my ability, that is there's out in the Polynesian Islands, there's some magic performed that brings the dinner into the table and that they play music. And the dolphins come in and they chant a little mantra to the dolphins even before they're visible that, and this is the words of the song, and they're inviting all the dolphins into dinner. They don't realize, of course, that they're the dinner, which he strange that the type energy again would be put into that.

mj1-22:17

I, people have investigated, as I said, like fire walking and that sort of thing. People have, they have tested these things and they work. The whole field of alchemy is full of this. A lot of people, you get to talking about magic, a lot of people say, oh boy, this is pagan. This is a primitive superstition or something of that sort. And I say nonsense. I say that every major religion on the face of this earth leaves in magic and believe very strongly if you're a fundamentalistic Christian, you've got to give back the Old Testament and it's full of people being taken up alive into heaven and people healing the sec men emerging from fiery furnaces. This is what I, unless we have to redefine magic, then I'm saying these are synonymous, is what I'm talking about. The same power is there, raising the dead, communicating with the dead, removing obstacles to progress.

mj1-23:14

You can't get what done what you want to. So what happens? Heaven sends the legion of angels, Dave giddy, or you throw the dice with the right frame of mind and you win precognition, psychokinesis, psychokinesis, making the dice for all the way you want to. That's the same, the lady moving the salt, pepper shakers and Russia. They have come the conclusion from experiments down at Duke universities that were monitored by JB Ryan that you can offer the roll of the dice, long testes, the basis and the proof and the final legitimizing of the word ESP, the term SP, that they found that there was a scientific increase in the frequency of the dice coming up and they were concentrated on over for a long period of time. So all that remained was is to be able to intensify that and we can, the pursuit of this knowledge I like to refer to as direct mind science.

mj1-24:07

You may have heard about it before, somewhere along the lines. And in talking about it, I used the terms like capella's eye. I don't know if you've ever heard of this or not, but this is backing Hindu, ancient Hindu philosophy. The origins of the Indian religion. Go back to a fellow, the name of Kar or Shane Carro, I don't know which it is. And cap, one of them was the fellow's teacher. I've forgotten which. But this man as opposed to have stopped an army attack the whole army, I dunno, the fruit attacking, they were destroyed by his glance given evil eye.

mj1-24:48

Now that sounds farfetched. And of course that happened 4,000 years ago, maybe 6,000 years ago. So a free recording damage could be twisted a bit. But I think right here in Ohio we had an incident of Tecu. Sey was a magician and he was an in Indian chief and he was immune to puls at least he convinced a lot of people that he wasn't immune to. He had some tremendous power and he even predicted his death. He knew that he'd have to die and he knew death cause his death. He was a fellow who told some people around me, some Indian wife, he said, I'll stamp my foot and the earth will treble. And he stamped his foot and it was an earthquake. So how do these things come about? I think as I said, somewhere underneath all this is a common denominator and this is what I'm trying to get to tonight. And some of this stuff on this slide will help for us. So we go on there as a walking on water and changing destiny, stopping black. I think everybody here, if anyways near my age have heard of the stop. The black people just get a formula supposedly from the Bible to be able to stop.

mj1-25:59

Now we have the miracles of faith's going to run through them. And we have an institution at Lords, the healings of Christ. And also there's healings of ra. RA was supposed to be an evil genius on issue. He wasn't. He was a friend of the last Russia. The Czar's family were the boy seemed to travel the side of the men with the hemophiliac and was the only son of the czar. And they brought pu to the family to keep it for a lot hemophilia, that's a disease. They get scratched hemorrhage. He was what they call a star in Russia, was like a traveling Foley man. And of course their ideaman, what ours were lecture, but yet he healed people. Now if you read Rasputin's like that, I was fascinated by it. I found out that Rasputin went a can everybody hear me? I'm drifting away from this microphone off. Pu came into town and was retiring to a cellar and he would fast and pray and abstain from sex. He was really like a penant. And he would remain there for a couple of weeks as Eddie, he would come out out of this cell cave or whatever, they'd let him stay and come to New Town. He'd be as pale as a ghost that he would come out and he would heal people.

mj1-28:00

He would go through town and he'd heal a bunch of people. And the population, of course was in so much past the turn of the century before World War. I imagine he would grieve quite a stir. He could have anything he wanted. He could have money. They didn't wind up a lot of money in his life, but he wind up a lot of pre, but before he left town, after healing all the people, he took all the women out the woods and they had a grand orgy. And that was the negative side. The negative side of that scheme. And the amazing thing is it's amazing how well women could keep secrets. There wasn't a single man in Russia ever found out what happened. Those events. That was the last thing he did before he went to the other town. So what Virginia idea is this thing? Is this faith or this having incidentally, if you noticed, he.

File mj2

mj2-00:04

Another outside the Burbank. Now we have another thing coming up and those things are just the conscious mind, but we have another faculty through the mind now that magical and that and under the heavy of direct mind science because bigger things are done by direct mind. The smaller things are done by hypnosis. Something that there were people that not too long ago, mayor that died recently, 10 or 15 five years ago, died in 1947 or 49 there. These people were skillful zappers. They did this by direct mind, but I mean they didn't have to Daniel something in front of you to put you, if you walk in, in range up and sometimes you can done. Now I thing all the things that I had seen or done and author read about other people go back the Bible who was by Peter supposedly, I don't think he himself, but they walked in and he dead supposedly himself, a very logical mind to say, Hey that's, that's by the, they had a collaboration. Somebody back a hammer. But no, he can be done. Stories coming out India all the time, people telling over there in the jungle and a tiger over and Yogi stood up and at it air hit the head.

mj2-02:25

We have a third thing. I'm Tructure creation, the use of the mind to create. I don't know how many have heard of Pul now there's a very responsible, but I put down a very intelligent book on and the, and in this book method months, six months knew, could be seen by other people. They worked to be very solid. The only thing after a while, personality, the reason I mention's because there are, I dunno how many you ever heard of material A there one time where walked out behind the curtain and after somebody to come up and get a hold of and let these people know I'm solid said.

mj2-04:19

What do you think that's now? Are those things created years and years Backing down medium to find a genuine material. And most of them come another form of direct mind. Creation of projections can contact people sometimes with I think require a bit of practice or a bit of urgency. A lot of people are contacted automatically by urgency like gets fixed or something crappy. The message, I think it be also by practice. Now there are a few things. We don't dunno the cause of them because we don't have enough data on them. Like the die, nobody can get back to 6,000 years. But ment somewhat mysterious, the ment imp describing a magical part of stone or a ring or some object and the mechanic of that. I had no idea I was scratching the surface. These things and perhaps level of belief. Now we get back to get the idea of psychology and how does this play into psychology? Well without psychology, none of exists. Your magician is one of the most psychologists come up again. He knows how to meet the people. He knows what the human mind is capable of not resisting. And from the very beginning the magic depends upon the mind. It either reading the mind like that or opening up the mind of that was behind about supposed

mj2-06:52

Mechanic. Mechanics of magic make the mechanics of magic would be very complex And yet in a way we get through, there'll be tremendously simplified. I think it's very simple. Done sometimes some of the magic that done very simple people and yes the mechanic that at the half we thought about throwing bike from the rolling and they bring that top down. Number seven require continu knowledge of where numbers are. That would bring a seven up and it has to happen in a few seconds, two, three seconds before the come to stop. So there has to be an intelligence there that somewhat our ability to watch the faces of the dice into a stop. It has to be something beyond that because it's done things we have. And science is basically a system of prediction. The whole chemical physical that is a field of physics, mathematics, all of this science to be based on prediction and fruit proof meaning ification of his firm. Somebody says I can put hydrogen oxygen together and we thought well okay put hydrogen together and well and he roll scientific all the way down through these things. In other words, I dunno how many project, how many of them were projected but he could do these things, couldn't do much of hometown.

mj2-08:47

And of course I always take those because I think they're common denomin because the people in your hometown and play ball don't believe you give anything except whatever you did in the hometown. Now what happens,

mj2-09:32

And this I would say these part, the religions on the face of earth would not have begun or would not have perpetuated it have been Matthew because nobody wanted to hear alone. They had to have and have something that maybe heal or repair and they much of their energy, wrong record. If you'll notice the child, every child wants to find out the mechanics of life and then the control of course among personalities running somebody else that also wants to control. So then competition starts and being able to be stronger, clever or whatever. And the first thing that a person gets into generally is the seems like you have to start somewhere. When I got into college, I started working at and I was really for a few months I really pleased with myself. I was leaving blind in the college be I wasn't long, I never had any idea that I wanted to be a state because I realized that I was only tucking the edge of enormous body of power back and I entertainment or someone on a commercial basis. I got into the one trip I was going up to seaville the hypnosis.

mj2-12:16

When I came back we didn't get, although I didn't as you can't that I able to people almost any they would come up with I I'd stop at the library and get the name of somebody book I very little about and I would person they would out example somebody could have died that went back to World War I. They had you later my in the crew and the fact that she was basically died and she also had a boyfriend who was a pretty major, she was older than I thought. She a young girl, girl Harris. She was years age a romance shot. I went up and I told her, I said this, the year 19 70, 19 16 you were standing in front of alg. Tell me why. Why are you standing? What did you do?

mj2-14:26

I dunno what I did wrong. I said well of course Mr. Find out where after died and brought back to find before but was Mr was done in the house of a minister and he was presbyter minister, he was from, and his wife retired but she was from England, never England College. College in England. She lived born, raised there and some of the people there I noticed all the time about chicken subject, her information, how you dressed. And she said well I had my nurse's uniform on. Mr was her head. That's right. And anyhow it was all over.

mj2-15:43

Exactly true. How could she have known the details back in 20 minutes? She said that's exactly what happened to the address, even the certain strike. And I said, and she said, I was raised in England and in a time leader was killed. I was a little girl and I read it in the newspaper like the house today, everybody's idol ideas develop. I see that every incident of that execution was brand in my head of the child because this was an important like an idol in my mind. I never forgot the details all my life. Well this because I didn't tell library that speaks for a random name and something somebody, I think somebody have been shot in the war because I knew they had to be sent before the subject was born. So the navy, I correspond with Aist in New Jersey and he told me some fantastic similar that but you go back hypnosis Carl Young would all archetype racial memory you can pick up.

mj2-16:44

So remain certain. Now incidentally if you that over on the side it says person to be powerful and you current these things after you look over you say hey this, you can see this wisdom head and you have a higher age. You look to a higher age if you written about it don't have to have word to have but you are operating now from the higher want wisdom. You don't want talk, you don't want to be convicted. I had in my mind was that I was looking up forward to death and I realized that the bodies would not survive if I was lucky. Perhaps something that I learned I wasn't interested in making as much as I was becoming and I went into sciences then would expand my own. So you have a question of age, you find out in the writing zone then tremendous awareness of prophet, which is outer energy and this is the, so still the age of the but the is now sacrificing himself in his own private energy. Invariably most of your energy, most of the, that occurred in by and supposedly some given Christ say that Christ army fellow went over to was doing, his name was no name, he was private for the government and he had to for a while but he came back to Houston, Texas, quite a few people and they were miraculous removing tumors.

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But he told the in the press interview that he was going to for a couple of years now no one here did nor he was very popular here about 10 years ago. He said he was doing it by direct projection of energy and he couldn't project like a general a form of electricity said Now the last time, this is where there's no, I thought

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There is an art of doing this. No, doesn't limit limits the amount of now French term for the thing, the ability to hold the mind on a standstill. Does anyone have the, I realize that we're dealing basically the book and I can't prove anything from the book. A lot of people believe the Bible is valid and I am pointing out what could be. I'm just saying I wasn't there. I dunno that is exactly what happened. But it had duplicated. Had duplicated and you h, a large number of people purpose unfortunately happened. Have question of those four you mentioned, which one are you functioning? Well

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I would real, the whole thing about most of the magical town running through, the only thing we can't refer, we can't prove stuff by alone. Some of it has to be demonstrated. And I heard of course that they had analyzed, I saw a film, I heard also that they have little cap at which some the s and the taken, I dunno, I placed a lot of freedom in the fellow of South America. Supposedly I believe shadow doubt and I do believe beyond shadow, even though it had never been ready carried. I know cases where people who had x-rays in table back then was a patient tumor first doctor.

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That'll happen that almost like surgery, like internal surgery. And the reason that I believe happen, it happened that formula, the way it set up, and I think this opinion be scientific as possible. In order to start a political movement or a spiritual religiou movement, you have to be in the business now. Million people. The ability to drive person form, well the thing is my next, where is it coming from? I've heard this quite, I don't think, I don't make up what we consider our own religious attitude to be crimes and sins and these crimes and sin. Now all you have to do is give divine source and somebody bites it down to the top of their head and I that all people, well the next item on this is police. I said a lot of these things are done by police. I don't believe that you have to, although it covers category, category things,

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Difficult term. I think thousands of people before one of them, one time they ed the work demon. I think the people were really, people didn't understand. But one psych, the from the very beginning to an unto outcome. And yet in the psychology finding basis into a generation or two oratory behavior upon, if you show yourself to be a little, when probably someone to take care of you in a very short time, months and years of drugs and drugs, flesh, this comes about by condition. Believe in authority to believe that people who have a single hanging out know what they're talking about. I find that the thing about people authority is that they become many years and when they get out there like a rubber band, first hundred thousand ion, they, the on hand is supposed to accept these people's authority. I.

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I ran into something and I was reading up on studio. An amazing thing again, every time you look into one of these old movements, find psychology

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And one of the most contemporary

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Man as well, he is now scientific and has scientific evidence of the contrary. He finds it extremely difficult to understand that his beliefs are by no means always written with either his intelligence, his culture, or his values. This is in year 1200 that this is written. He is therefore unreasonably pro to indoctrination and you somehow, when you want take that step away, that should you the turn when you want. Take that step away from the delusion getting into the big game that everyone else is into. You go into a doctor and he tells you something. He gives you a term for I visited a boy in lecture. Well I said a doctor. I said, what are you giving it? He

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Said, I said, yeah,

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How do you diagnose his teeth? He said, we don't have a diagnosis. I said, what the hell are you giving medicine for? Not even a doctor. Well we have drugs that count certain, certain he counter drugs so you don't have to be diagnosed one pop, maybe a longer murder or something. So he became antisocial. Now I'm going start another thing here of course that we'll give you an idea on the approach to an abstract philosophy and there has to be an approach to an abstract philosophy necessary in this business of understanding the mind. And the first time I ever encountered this was in a book by Bertman Law, which struck me very so Ben on them. Before I do that, I want to mention certain systems if you want remember and bring them up later. Systems to power, healing power or magical power. The first belief, another purification is a factor of surrender of ego, egos, invocation that anything else you want to go that this mechanical form curses witchcraft, that they heal anybody they use that they use what we call witchcraft. Religion is the outstanding one. And then this, there's another called prayer and between them, one of more scientific term.

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Now what I have here is we find that,

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I used to know Pittsburgh, they had a lot of trouble with his mind. He couldn't talk, he couldn't articulate the well and we'd be talking the philosophy in his presence and there was a pause. He'd go like this on the edge of the table. He'd say, well there's this and then there's this. Then he'd finger moon say, there's this like shattered. Everybody laugh knew something. It was just the limited ability to demonstrate it it like a childish. But what we have here is and lift, which is linear thinking. See this is a black, this is white is what they call draw just thinking or linear thinking. Everything has to be either black or white, but it isn't. Everything isn't somewhere in between in gray. And we arrive at that only by the contemplation zone, a black and white. And I liken this to the surveyor who wants to try to find the, I call it triangulation in thinking, the surveyor who wants to find the perpendicular distance from the base of the mountains in the top where you can either reach the base directly underneath the pin of the top and it would be difficult for to drag chain to make the difference chain.

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And it's done distance from the mountain by using a transit and striking an angle, simply striking an angle and then measuring out so many feet from your apparatus rated a certain height and you calculate then from the distance from the base of it, from the bottom of the mountain and the angle that you pick up at the top, the third side of the triangle, which you can't see down inside of the mountain.

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I think some of you're aware of this. Well this is very similar to this. This is because we can contemplate on this linear type of thinking for years and years. I'll give you, here's another example. This you heard the concept of FaceTime. This demonstrate how the concept of space time is brought about in case you haven't read on the matter. We basically, there isn't a space in the final analysis of space that as FaceTime that would be that and our human mind allow us to, there is no dimension in faith without an understanding on our part of time and cons. The final dimension is one of space.

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We have two faculties in our thinking. We have two schools so to speak. One of them is logic and there's other things to be perceived without logic at all sense. And the greatest creation of some of the possibly most of the inventive, it would not occur without this intuition. And I can remember a year ago I was working in Akron, BMW subsidiary plant. They alive I think it was. And we were working on the Tommy submarine and we had a man there who was gifted for an unusual intuition besides a bit of knowledge. And he devised and discovered ways of piping a liquid metal which everybody else had given up on. But he applied his intuition, not his logic. He said logically he couldn't pipe it through because it burn up the motor, he it through a motor. Now what you have there is you combine the two, an untrained intuition. A person who just has lunches can get erratic and misreading. But a person who covers that with logic and Roger wisdom and the entire pattern is one of being for the first time

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You haven't

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Now when you're approaching a project here is here is a formula of sorts. And this has something to do with this pesticide of a magical between us to produce a total reality or to witness a reality. And you have thought, and of course we're obsessed and we hang our thoughts and almost as though if we went to sleep, we'd be dying wherever we undertake, make a formula, we still problem. But if you take the mind in thought and then have the mind in no thought, you have an absolute realization. Is this, in other words, you are have having to refer to things such as that because in the zen technique and ally, I consider then a higher type of psychology than what we have here in the western world. And filed years ago, mind, direct mind because they didn't take pictures of or try to photograph off or try to catalog charts on certain types of behavior and other types of behavior.

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They went directly into the mind itself. And the students in Zen, you find it in all the books that are written on zen nor defined, just total realization. They had to read the mind of thought. It's the only way it could come about things paradoxical. How do you think that the mind, in fact, it's a little frightening fact. But you read all through these books, you'll read this call looking for no mind, no mind. There's another word for two, losing yourself in God. If you can comprehend that term, certainly losing yourself in God. But if a person is offended when you use the word God, we can use the other word and say that you just do not think you have the minds without thought. In other words, in the old istic, right, the formula for creation was the imagination plus the will was kio and then forget. Now I'll go back through that for you. In the beginning the creation was three dos.

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This was the imagination, the will that let there be. That was the will spoken in the Fi saying let there be and then dropping the whole matter. This is that formed for the creation of the world, only creation of whatever created. So you have a thought in your head, you put the thought in your head, you forget about it or you bring yourself to the point of anxiety. And then techniques where your mind actually goes blank from attention. And when the mind goes blank in that tension, you experience something to figure to the knowledge that you tried to get by step by step weighing one way another there. Because I don't think it's possible for me to reason only it's possible for me to get across to you like this gentleman here, another method of healing. I possible explain writing or something. The mechanism. By the way this works.

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Okay? Now wrote a book, book and I brought books along incident that relates to what I'm talking about because I can't possibly give you all this information. It's at three o'clock now in a couple hours time. But you can pick this up in the, each one of them has a fragment of this information that they've found upon. Pierce said his wife was dying of cancer and he decided that he might be able to heal her and he would destroy the present. Now substitute it for a card of health immortality perhaps. Now again, the fact you might not know what meant by a paradigm, A paradigm is the fact that it's like you belong to a club. If you belong to a club or if you work in a machine, you a language results in the machine shop. Only the machinist know because it's short term chemical labs in the engineering labs, they have shorter variations.

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The doctor have it for their medicine. They call it hemostatic staff and that sort of thing. So a new language develop, and this is called a paradigm, but it's a paradigm within a paradigm because the whole human language is a para and the paradigm say perhaps it weren't. In other words the good, the word good was developed before the quality of goodness was proven, just meant from a very primitive ang of act or even prior to that language, both we developed a language that believes in sickness. And this is Mary Baker goes along with the same thought that Christian scientists maintain that we create sickness and we have to by faith change that paradigm. The paradigm is the language. The language is distinct on rocket for ski to get by. Well what you have when you're meeting with a person that's sick and sick as defined by a certain power of him, his concept of the way his wife was the substitution of the power of him.

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For another one, I do not probably agree, I don't know what his thoughts about now his wife died. But you have a thought of a para against, and this is the magical triangulation again, again where we had substitute from no mind, you have no thought of a para against have thought of no para against. In other words, you stay alone. I don't accept, I don't think about it. And of course what happens is if you creates a superpower, again the way it would be created or a system, you might validate a system of magic or it might be something that happens as a result. It that doesn't function according law we know.

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Now here's the one that has to deal with, they look in a truck, the of action truck has to be listed. You can't see that song. Now, in order to be effective, you don't think of yourself. You don't convince yourself that your back's going to break. When you lift it, you cancel that thought completely out. And the result is herculean physical phenomenon because it's somewhere in between action and non-action that you have the capacity for total action. And this is creation on the physical science re corner diagram. Describe the creation of the birth of a bible. Strength.

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Here is the final. This is the final method of if you wish to heal, you visualize what has to be viewed. You visualize it, you believe in it and you will it. And then you surrender. You remember down at the bottom of that other thing that I showed here, non ego surrender all belief and will, and there's another way of putting it, is spoken very plainly in the prayer of alcoholic anonymous, give us a serenity to tolerate things tolerate and another things that we could change and what we can't change. Difference what does it saying? That was a magical formula in that prayer. First the person changed as a result of his life because he surrendered his egos to a higher will. We don't have to name it, we don't. We're not important enough to be able to necessarily identify that with disappear. Disappear. So it's like saying, yes, I believe that for to happen, but I am not going to try to make it happen unless it is supposed to happen then I will have to happen otherwise I'll forget about it. And the result is creation. If it's supposed to be created. That is the thing you don't.

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And that is,

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Here's a diagram, one of my books and this has a realization what I call absolute realization. You can take it however you wish. You can say well concept or if they establish facts or described in the little book out there called the psychology journal and cutting off the bottom. Okay, so here we have an example of these fairness. The first one is our relative consciousness has to do with the relative physical consciousness. And it has again, the line at the bottom I here is our relative world is a line running always between opposite made positive black and white and bad. And we are in a continuous road to define stuff within that line. And of course it becomes ultimately impossible because the line are being thousand line be so in the observation, the study of that line, we find the compensatory point is what walk.

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The compensatory point is somewhere in between. They neither agree but somewhere in between as the government work, and this is what I call the umpire or in devout Christian service called the conscience perhaps, but it's an inner decision making apparat because we are always faced with the faith was a negative and the positive what to do and what not to do. They go down to monumental decisions whether to kill or not to kill, whether to allowed or not allowed whether to fly downhill or climb up hill. And these decisions are made by the umpire and the mistakes that is made by nearly everyone is that this umpire is our inable guide, but we have to study yourself. If you observe yourself in a meditative manner for 30 years, you'll discover maybe a couple of months you discover that the umpire's faulty and in other words it makes decisions occasionally that comes the person to get killed or caused the person to get sick.

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It's like allowing the person say to fall in love with another person who has a bad disease. He got the cooperation from the ahead two up. So when we encountered it, when we first encountered the fact that our individual judgment is faulty or can be faulty, we remember then that perhaps we abandoned our something we should have listened to. And we have again another relative line here, another because we're still in a relative connect that we can only think along relative lines. So we have then a correspondence or a contemp inflation between higher intuition. I'm not necessarily thinking now hallucinations or simple intuition, but this is the higher intuition maybe inspires us to join a church or follow some moral path of life which the umpire didn't necessarily take care of. And we're always then when we get out that level, we're always at war.

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Between Saturday and Sunday the umpire stood up until Saturday, Sunday, the higher intuition Sunday, the mind they take over. He says, you may not have been doing the right thing in the last seven days because they may be leading you into psych trouble or something of that way. Now are, if I guarantee you these are not just marked on paper, if you sit down and face yourself over a period of times in some sort of meditative manner, you'll find that, see this is exactly what you'll run into, that you're going to be stuck with always two polar points regardless. No matter whether it is like the person talk about the absolute and somebody immediately says, well, what is there with the attitude? What created the absolute, it has to be something else. It seems like it's impossible for you and me to see that there are two things.

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They're used to dealing with this confusion of the opposite. So what happens is in a meditational process is the person observed this thing happening just like we're observing it now, he starts to watch the workings of the umpire, the wordings of the iron wishes. And he watched his mind during summer calls, he watches himself going through cycle foolish cycle of wisdom. Cycle was breakdown, cycles of repair because he can't be even with a higher. So we can completely control his life and stop the delay. But the emulation and this creature here then becomes a very real creature. This is where the mind, the man now is no longer living a somatic life watching his own mind, which seems like, think about it, an impossibility about the mind, watching the mind. But if you remember I mentioned to you the game of the students was the reach point of no mind.

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And he had to do that with a conscious mind. And if this became possible, if it was impossible in any audience somewhere along the line of 4,000 years, they would've chop it out. But it must have worked for a few people. Well we take now the all has risen to the point of where he's not so much concerned with the body he is with C. But the workings in his mind, he's becomes obsessed with this. This is where he works from. But he again finds or discovered that there's another relative line that he is watching a mind. But he's also aware of awareness. He's aware that there's something behind the mind. There's something that is almost singing destructiveness. And so you don't look with intuition anymore. He looks simply with a direct minded awareness itself. Now from Lee, from this contemplation just stacking back and forth against brother, upper line man arrive at an absolute realization or he arrive at a point in which his head is on dead center. There's nobody else to go.

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Now what happens when he hands on sentence almost anything, and I think it can be this particular book, the purpose wasn't to heal it to first of all realize more important to realize what to who you are and what you are. So the first prophet or the first that comes from having your head on dead center is an absolute realization yourself and then of experience doesn't show you. Then you might be able to do something on a Monday level. I wonder if any questions, if I touched on something, there's a lot of words used here, probably need explanation. There's a lot of ideas, probably need clarification. And we've got a, you said that when you were

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Young you realized that. What type of

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Wisdom were you looking for? Definition. Definition. I think people presume that they are, and this isn't adequate because as you get older, when you start off as a child, you presume that you are something. And of course you exist in a certain light form in which everybody is perfecting you, flattering you pat you on the head and making you leave. You're wonderful when you go to school with that mood, get bunch as your nose. So the idea is that the child reviewed, it was projected to be by friends of separate and this goes on all through life. So that if you talk to someone at 50 years of age or something and they'll tell you he's age when you're 25 years of age, you look at the kids at 15, you say that's dream 90 years's not mature. And this means that these people do not have a just judgment of themselves.

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And this is on all through life. And if you get to be 50 or 50 years of age and you say, Hey, this should go even right up to the last moment, I can be fooling myself about who I think I am. This is what I realized is the faith of the truth. I realize it the basis, the true psychology, the reason I'm bringing it up, truth psychology is knowing who you are. It isn't the knowing of what drug to take to bring you down when you're higher, if you up your low. It's basically permanent understanding. And when you have that permanent understanding of yourself possibly there's a little, you might even know what you're here for.

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You talked about healing. How about giving analysis of how you think Ed Casey functioned? Where was he in the healing pattern? How would you analyze his? I don't know, bypass Casey there, although he is one of the miraculous phenomenon in the book. In the book. I sent the JP foundation years ago down to Virginia Beach, talked to you Lynn, you Lynn may be nonactive now. The place was almost inactive at the time. That was around 1974 or five, the grass going out of the south in the house. And now I see pictures of an big brick building there off of me out in front of that war in the ocean. I haven't been down there know it's very a very much, yes, I was amazed course in the book. I said, well, what we need is we need an extra safety, not his reading. Because of course they're trying, I think they heal with his read.

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This person would heal by olive oil to let get back and try that. But where we get this information from is what you asked. And I'm inclined to believe that in view of the fact that we can understand an item called safe time, that there is no path and cutting in upon things that had already happened, discover that it happened in face time, in FaceTime and other mortal time. Sometimes now I can't see it anywhere else because of history. I can't pick those juror out of previous chemical. You know what I mean? So I feel that he was able, what happened? He went into a certain state of mind. He was able to, when I say possibly into a state of no mind as I suggest or he reached that absolute cynic. But regardless, he allowed his misinformation to come into this mind. And in this respect, he was a very unique person, a very miraculous type of magician, very humble man was no, I don't think there was any bologna about him at all. But the unfortunate part about a humanity can't do that. That's what we should be trying to do.

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Why are you using the magical? Well, you know what? The spiritual, the word spiritual, I'll avoid it because basically the origin of even spiritual aspirations is the magical and desire in every human being. And the other reason, second reason I avoid it, use the word spiritual, is because it has a sort of, let's say narcissistic. It covers a multitude of racks and I don't like to get everything. We got a big spiritual movement of I wouldn't want even weight for some of these spiritual movements on contamination. We don't know that I operate strictly. You can say that and I say use the word surrender yourself to gut, but I don't use it in a scientific sense. You have to prove it. You'll notice when I'm stopping here, I carefully avoid saying anything that I can't demonstrate because God is something that you can't prove by logic, God is in my estimation, the only way you can find God is through becoming, not learning.

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Is the barrier your book a method? Yes. Is that what it's about? Yes. I haven't, well the first book, they saw the papers but was written a result of an experience I had and for quite a few years after I had it, I didn't trying to verbalize because it was an absolute type of experience and how do you say that word, without confusing somebody or holding up another call code or that work. So I the issue for quite a few years and then I just made notes, compiled the notes and laid out a great it. It's a very simply the analogy and very simple. I say, you go about spiritual work or mine work. Say you go about building a shed, you want to build a shed, you take a hammer and you learn to dry nail and you go down to the library. You wish you get booked on conservatory. Now first you get into this other thing, what I call higher performance mining work. You don't have the things that you got the book, you have you because it about 99% everyone, I hate all the human being from the time beliefs, the faith people today, it shapes people when they come through their mind and maybe they're not what they think they are.

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With myself, with people around me that I know they can happen. As far as for being, lemme put it this way, I think everybody has a function on earth and I can't do two or three things. My main function, my main function, my main transmission is reserved from knowledge transmission rather than energy transmission for the purpose because I figured that I would try to do that my best function. I remember one time we had here at the same church right here several years ago, two of church and there was a couple of ladies came down from somewhere and one of 'em wrote me a letter and said, Mr. Rose, I think you are cheapening your back to a certain degree. You could be teaching something else. We were at things like astrology, coding, photography and that sort of thing and it wasn't much about mind science at all in it and I don't know how she hooked up the fact that I had something else but I been doing with my life.

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But I find out the more people are interested in astrology that are interested in changing their, or if I was talking on piece document seven, five times, I wonder, I don't, I really don't know. I have those accounts of people being totally incinerated in a room and the foot would be consumed with the shoe. The rug would be maybe scorched a little. The man burned up inside of a cab of the truck out west and driving I think a gasoline truck, nothing except he parked a little bit of on the roof. The only conclusion that the so-called scientists could come up with was that he was a heavy bruiser and he got a high of alcohol cigarette and he went These, as I said, we are on the edge of this enormous not of knowledge. We just on the edge of it and the reason it's so hard to get into this thing is because we're very, it says it can't happen.

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Book, written book in validated books, society, there's nothing but occurrences down flying where they come from. I mean like in Cleveland it could rain down the lake, but I think the idea of legislation I group of, they were all responsible people, they were all professional people there had no money involved, no charges made for or anything like that and they got into other tables and I had my hand on the table. When it ride from the floor and curtain, the table and table, it becomes like water. It feels like flowing underneath your hand, not on another, but right before the thing leaves the floor. It becomes almost like a living creature and you can ask the question, you can ask the table questions and it'll kick one foot down proudly on the floor. Afraid no one for yes people, no. And they were actively giving information they've been seen go to the ceiling where nothing left at the fingertips on the bottom of the lake. Now what did the physicist say about manipulation? I think in other words, they've got a bad answer. The medical men, they have coincidence, but we are getting a new era. There's a new era coming in in the psychiatry psychology heal that they're outnumbered tremendously.

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Stein his book on the two brain parts of the brain, very good hold about which type of he occurred in the brain. There's a lot of things I think that occur magazine, a publication that I had for over 20 years I described to them and eventually cataloged all the phenomenon like the flying duck and goat ships on. The reason I think it occur is because we're in a more fluent universe than what we think it. My conclusion of course about the universe is that it's been human life, a tremendous leeway for creative

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Use of magic. Magic doesn't ask for a scientific explanation. I'm wondering if we witness in the spiritual and that open a whole new

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Explored area. Well I think magic does and maybe that would be the difference between these spiritual things. You more or less get the connotation of disease, whereas magic is if you some of the formulas for invocation the results through invocation. It's a prescribed formula just like it would open up a chemistry manual that they take so many drops of that. There's so many drops of this come together and you'll get X. That's the thing about the science to be very scientific. It's another language that seems to word. The only reason I use magic is because it the word magic because this is the basic, the root and the final thing. Somewhere in between we can see where these other things work in, but down at the bottom it's the magical child that a child interested in magic, interested in these things and he starts into his basic magic and at the other end, when you get to an absolute situation where there's no possible way to manipulate things except under the will of something else, it's still magical. It's tremendously magical when it happens. You deep. Do you believe angels deep? I don't disbelief. I do not disbel because this is another ageism in humanity is it? We're the only fish in the sea and what you see, what you can't see isn't there. I don't buy that. I think the science has to deal with that which can't be seen if it didn't. You never have any information on virus cure disease. You can't see them.

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I believe that you can't photograph something they can be, they can't be photographed. Now I don't think angel, I'm talking about William crook in Titania, Katie King, a photographed pictures taken of materialization with an infrared general. But I find a genuine materialization. I can take pictures. I am sure seen enough of them to know that they were separate intelligence and they got form. Now one of those classes you teach people, some of 'em I think number people the way limited knowledge, but I think a lot of these things consider demons are teach people. But I think that there's no reason why the and flora that we see on this planet gets be represented by an equal material type floor. In another dimension, a person ever gets to the point where something else higher is controlling. Has his illusion of free will end at this point?

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I don't think so. I think he has an illusion what ends is the belief that he can do is he believe it, but simultaneously with the arrival that belief is the knowledge is what he wishes is important like alchemy. You study start out and try to make gold a lead and you study and study, you study every science on the face of the earth and you discover the truth about yourself. It no longer need it. The gold no longer need it. The purpose of the study of magic is nearly every case that is abandoned down the road. The purpose is always selfish. Wasn't me at people when I was had very

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Humans.

mj4-09:10

When you say negative, yes, yes, yes. You transcend that rather rapidly when you start to study, I said in the diagram you start to study the umpire, you see that that is a human evaluation for the, it's good to not attack your fellow man because he may shorten your lifespan. They death. Evil and itself may not be evil, death may be liberation. I was reading's book darkness, I the name he was in a jail in during the revolution was going to shoot him and he told and take out every day they take out 10 people, shoot him, they didn't want to. He said they took out a 50-year-old boy, boy picked up with a bunch of these revolutionaries, left communists taking the boy out the street. He realized that his wife was over had a priest, described the priest greasy and drunk like he himself. Maybe he had to be drunk, but the boys said he shouted for his mother, his mother, the priest don't complain so much. You're being liberated that you're really being, this is your freedom, the real freedom. So maybe he knew something, but one thing liberated from police that not with us.

mj4-10:38

I little hesitant in raising this thought, but I've been listening to you gone through my mind that human species can help end on self annihilation and if so, you have some ideas to what the possible relevance or significance of this, we have a solution possibly for this city madness. I am hoping that somewhere in all of this, like yourself were this. I think that at some point in time it may make a qualitative difference in how we go about the business of living. I have a feeling Richard Bucky wrote a book called Cosmic Consciousness in which he did a survey of the people who had reached cosmic consciousness and his statistics were one in a million. Now since then, of course I've given a lot of thought on cosmic consciousness. My book is about cosmic consciousness and so there's 200 million, 200 million people in the country.

mj4-11:50

So that means that I should have the most 200 listeners, 200 people that would be interested have not been in try to understand what caused me this. But I know that there's been 5,000 more readers than that would've been invaded into buying the book. So maybe there are more people interested in what you think. The only thing is that goes back to this business I've been about in healing, a lot of people will come right at me very bluntly sometimes I'm not and say, what are you doing for humanity? See? And my answer is nothing. Nothing. I have no time for humanity. I have only time for a small segment of humanity I'm trying to specialize.

mj4-12:31

So I don't believe that it's going to take all of my strengths and the rest of my life to contact those people that I think I should contact in my lifetime and that's all I can do. And as far as the workings of humanity, the wars, the strife, the mass, this wave of suicide grabbing in the country and there's a bit of wisdom there behind all of that. By wisdom I say some people smart by checking out. But the thing is that behind all this is a chief engineer. My biology, there's a chief engineer that has everything under control. The blueprint, the machinery going according the blueprint where we stand, it don't look so hot.

mj4-13:10

But the thing is don't get in where the violence, don't get in where the explosions are. Don't associate with trying to change the world. I went to, I brought lecturing back in 1968, ran into thousands and thousands of people, these different universities, young people that couldn't wipe their nose and they will have to change the worlds and 50% or more are dead and the world is still going on its own mad door finger or whatever it's supposed to go. So I think that the best thing a person can do is take time out to find out who is being had

mj4-13:48

Because the evidence is we being had.

mj4-13:56

I want to ask you, I have a book I like more information on. Yeah, well there's some flyers out there, eight and 11. It gives you a pretty fair rundown in two pages. If there's any question, question about direction of in an abstract, I approach an abstract identity who you are, but it can be done, demonstrate can be done.

mj4-14:58

Yeah, I was just wondering, talking about the

mj4-15:07

Never, I wonder this can be done, continue. What's the relation of effort to accomplish things? See what

mj4-15:16

I'm talking about? Yes, yes. Well I think, I don't know, but I know that when you were talking I about had a friend had enormous, I've always had Uck or not and I went up to the studio and he's got a hundred pound weight on a bar there and he had a way of pumping, getting it up so far and I fix it up, put it up over head. Don't do that. You'll rupture a muscle or a blood vessel. But the reason I did didn't know any about it me was that I had been used to carrying weight and balancing an 80 foot ladder, 40 foot ladder up off the ground it that way. So I had to some muscle develop. I didn't pounds, pounds ladder. He thought because my mother weren before I left the plate, he ruptured it. I dunno how he did it. So you think the can't do it? Well I think you can't go beyond. I think there's a limit to what you can lift. In other words, I look familiar with lying on that girl don't picked up. But I think what happens, there's a factor, prevent, factor accountable science.

mj4-16:56

I wonder why it seems to,

mj4-17:03

Well because that slide I showed, the force that goes down just as powerful, not more powerful than when it goes up, but to take care of what I call the upper sector, which is what a man becomes, becomes a vector, a direction of energy, the great sector, the factor where the earth and nearly everybody's fighting tooth the nail to go back into the earth and at the same time keeps them going back into the earth. There's between those two efforts, there's not much left. We're going up into the creative nature drags us down. We we're like the weak in the field. We reach a certain age and the grain comes to a head and the leaf gets dry and your C is alive that you realize what you are. You're a corn stock and it produced and die all.

mj4-17:51

Do you think that yoga systems would be a good preparation for going into yoga is one magical yoga? Yoga is very good. Of course it's different schools. There's a lot of pre broad yoga schools. The Korean yoga school visualization, I don't approve of. I don't believe that you should imagine stuff in your head. You want to put something in your head, put something in there. It's real. You understand what I mean by star? I call ithan projecting certain image, deifying the guru by looking at him up here. I think that's detrimental. But I think there is a meditative form and combination. It's not only one thing. You can't just sit and do one little ritual. I was into yoga for years and nothing was happening and I became from the time of 21, 28, I became almost angry. I'd run into travel over the country, various movement.

mj4-18:50

If they're not out for sec, they're out for money. There's no real truth behind them. But then I realized it was a grain of truth and this is a difficult thing, finding a grain of truth because the intuitions of many men will not follow a phony path very long. So there's a grain of truth that appeals the intuition when you pick out the grain in throw the garbage aside, this is the point. There is an ability yoga age. Simply as you sit in a certain posture, the mind becomes a peak. Okay, what's happening inside the head? This neurotransmitter that I was talking about is running evenly. It's not going up and down like this. The graph of energy is not so consequently there's no trauma connected with it. No restlessness after you train yourself to do that or while you're in that position, you can do it for tremendous.

mj4-19:39

A lot of thinking. You can take in a lot about what you've already taken in at the time to, what do they call it? Ruminate to chew over. Wisdom is inside ourselves. We've got billions and billions of factors in those billions. Well, so all we have to do is keep pushing this material into the computer. What is the memory? Bank of the computer is everything you've ever read or everything you've ever heard. Okay? So to get the answer from that is you continually attack the computer with one or two words. Why? What? Who am I who? Let's come up with this. Let's get away from all this picture. That's what the message you have for yourself. Come on. We've been into this picture before. We sit down just once and for all we found out that it's absurd. You don't pay a man for spirituality. Nobody should get a nickel for spirituality. We have to charge here because they charge up for the license. They wouldn't be charged for this.

mj4-20:37

We're lucky sometimes to break even, but I don't believe that there should be any rackets run because it's too important and undertaking and it is the highest relationship between any human being and another human being serious business. But they don't treat it that way. People don't treat it that way. I've heard the book but I've never anything about it. Oh, I knew about the mind boat. I don't think, I think there's a big mistake if we are making, you got to know how work everything isn't valid. There's a big movement to the big thing sweeping the spiritual and mental world today is something across between and an old time living everybody and religious, everybody first, second not people. There's a big direction today think and don't criticize anybody. Hey, this is too valuable. Your future, your lifetime and you going get so many years in a lifetime, if you start off in your five years of age got so many years to solve a problem.

mj4-22:03

But you as an intelligent human being have to solve. You have to find out who's suffering. So consequently, we don't have time for people who are going to trust themselves upon us because they too might have a good point. So under that basis of that pre or don't criticize that criticize that we could not get anything done or we can accept the mediocre when something real might be around the corner or might be also people available. I think that there's a tremendous complacency and I think it's born out of the fear of violence. Tremendous pseudo spiritual movement today that is oriented towards man instead of listen. Nice to be oriented towards man but not the economy or de about what about soul?

mj4-23:00

An a enlightenment. Well you buy the book. I don't what read the book. My book. Good. Well, and the reason I don't use the word soul is because it immediately either are certain words that are pretentious. If I use the word God immediately subject to another question. How do you know? See what I mean? So I avoid the word because one man's God is another man's doubt to define, to use the word. To me it's an absolute realization or the total realization she can come to. Now when it comes to the word soul, I believe beyond the shadow of a doubt that we have something more real. It isn't something of a ER type of thing that goes around like a goat. I believe that the inner person, the capital S itself is more real. The universe that we enter after death with that capital itself is far more real than this. This is a big long line of thinking. It's bouncing around on this thing of relativity. Whereas in an absolute and with direct mind experience, you only experience oneness, not multiplicity or not shaped up. I do believe in one, but I prefer to enough people find it through their minds. I said the perfect psychology will find the soul. And that's the one of the reasons for showing these little, the perfect psychology will take you to God. And I'm not making a picture, I believe making I believe the some facts.

mj4-24:29

I can't really hear you well. I don't deny that it was further engineering to myself. But when he instructed, use the word Josh, he might be fighting it according to somebody's private theory because everybody's used to that. They tell a story about the draft. Some of the boys, the army from West Virginia and the guy hadn't gone to school and the guy said, can you write your name? And he said, no, they still weren't the army. He said, I don't know what to ask you. I asked about Abraham Lincoln. He hadn't heard of Abraham Lincoln. He said, did you ever hear of God? And he said his last name, Dan.

mj4-25:06

This is an extreme way of bringing about and the different ideas people have about God. See, we went through here and could poll gene. We can only poll local answers that if we could ask people in their definition of God with their meaning at compared our meaning that used because we don't know what they need, you would find nearly all of them different. Nearly all of them different. Some of 'em would be a very personal creature, actually got a by glass watching every spiral and well, and sometimes being able just because they said he was able to watch all the sparrows. I think all the sparrows are watched. But I think it's by virtue of creating the machinery that takes care. And we saw the machinery called it karma. See, we just put certain laws into effect and it all works like a big piece of machine. And of course we say that we're watching and God is watching it. Well the engineer, the blueprint may be working now first there's another line of science that says, Hey, maybe we can sneak into some stuff when he isn't watching. They some of these little things that aren't being really scrutinized very carefully and that's incidentally as a school of magic. A lot of people think that they can't just fight the plants, get in there and pull subres.

mj4-26:25

I don't believe in insanity. I believe in a physical breakdown of the brain. Only if somebody split you with an, you're not going to think it's fairly, but I don't, I believe that the awareness, now the reason I say this is because, and I'm sure a lot of you have had this experience going directly into the mind of a person you ever met with a person, especially person's mentally sick and you pick up what they're thinking. You'll know that they're just as aware as you are, but their communication not that gets crippled. Why is that? I don't know why most of them are born that way, but sometimes it causes caused by political breakdown. I do not believe in mental insanity. We've got a few psychologists and psychiatrist that say the same thing, but they don't elaborate on it properly. He thinks a lot of pretension, but I just say people that can't help themselves can't help themselves. But it's not insanity. The doors and the windows aren't open. They're inside of a closed structure. And only by direct mind and this maintain psychologist or psychiatrist until the time that they developed some sort of direct mind, I approach to the, they're wasting their time. You've got a mile in their mocca scientist, scientific scientific doctor and psychiatrist guide to be objective. He said, oh, I twitch. That means his great grandfather had,

mj4-28:06

Well, anybody have any comments?

mj4-28:11

A question? Is there any between what you were originally talked about at the beginning of the lecture about the spark gap between that concept and the triangulation of things where you have opposites and then you have anything between the negative positive is the spark gap and reason I said that that more of a biological structure

mj4-28:37

That I maintain. We always think when we talk about being mind that always want to, some people say the in the D maybe, but where thought occur, what happens? We're all thinking right now all what's going on? And I maintain all of that living, that thinking. Living disease occurred right here. Nothing. And this is related to neither the sensory object or the memory bag. Neither of those are the lamp because it to be an earth you could almost revitalize a dead body and up the memory they have a gene or DNA. But in between there's between the flesh a real vital human being. I think that's the soul. Where does the soul touch the body? The soul going out through the head. But where does touch the body in? If we are an indestructible, immortal human soul? Where is that in there?

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